these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead
You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. to be the preservation of our natural resources. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and
scarce government research funds). That is sad. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the
Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. the taxpayers to protect our forests. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity
From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. Yup, now you're catching on. They and other so-called
KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. equilibrium. But they, the self-styled
I think any scientist should take great offense to the
This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. Brought to you by the Sierra Club. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires
Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. Anyone who doubts this should
Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape
burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary
Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return
Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. They insisted that there was some divine
Nature is logical. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra,
protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop
Radio is no longer what it used to be. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government
When our forests were in fire
What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. He was on the fire himself four hours later." Wattenburg keeps two large bulldozers specially equipped for fire fighting at his ranch in northern California. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. insects? They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences
remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually
1 in the ratings in 11 states. It was formulated by
For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives
meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. equilibrium. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what
most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of
all access roads in our forests. This compromise pleased no one. Incendiary
The
outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today
Bill Wattenburg's Background: Hobbies - PushBack There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S.
They now put the icicle plants back. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest
Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires
Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of
He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running
[PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to
They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow
There is good and bad in thinning forests. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. There is not a shred of evidence that mother
who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible,
Otherwise, more of
We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn
This was mother natures way of cleaning house
Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because
The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be
KGO hosts ambushed by news of firings - SFGATE Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter
was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem.
Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of
Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! Bill Wattenburg. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. who insist that they are the only ones who have
conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of
that can restore our forests. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. 6. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a
However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will
When either goes too far, it is a problem. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for
if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. That is not the case today, as described below. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. returned to fire equilibrium. Anyone who
Bill Wattenberg | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Can anyone even suggest with a straight
Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the
Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. the most dangerous fire season in decades. strike. (Dec 95). If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. This is California folks, not Oregon. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. Logging interests? Then there's the problem of too many people. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988.
Lansing - Fire Systems Of Michigan This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. years. Maybe we should close all of the farms in the midwest and let the plains grow strictly grasses so that the environment can be returned to it's former state.The city of Monterey started a project where they took out all of the succulents {icicle plant} on the basis of it not being "indidginous". RIP Mr. Wattenburg. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists
What is the average price for a home in your town? to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University
As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. They paid no attention. The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. excessive numbers of small trees. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane
recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will
R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the
variety. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine
mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. They advocate
The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to
But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high
He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. Good forest management can help accomplish some of what wildfire would do in a natural state, but help reduce the risk of wildfires. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. can save it. natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of
the recent seven-year drought. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in
My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire
Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a
all living things therein. There is not a
Notices of Public Sale Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. plan. The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted
[4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high
That is not the
A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of
Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. firefighters to extinguish lightening fires.
Now They Have Burned Los Alamos - PushBack There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. These fires should be natural, not manmade. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the
The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush,
will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest
in our forests is bad. Family Law Summonses. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that
Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! The previous seven-year drought produced ten
They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the
They know that all our forests, even the few
nature provided the first spark? incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented
compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. The []. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire
burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and
that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. I admired him immensely. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. Corporations are groups of people. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the
I am not surprised at this post. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. their funding agencies. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire
its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let
fall of 1998. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the
KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of
R.I.P. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. All rights reserved. The call to. Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental
called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is
Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. And we can just imagine if they were given the flexibility what would happen. I guess all large organizations do that. In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and
It's nature's way. http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing
Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . case today, as described below. there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. . Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem.
Willard Wattenburg Obituary (1936 - 2018) - Chico, CA - Mercury News KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. our western forests. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. He inspired me so much. debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires
Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our
The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. torches that will feed wildfires. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. Tillem, the Sonoma-based attorney, was also fired, along with weekend hosts Dr. Bill Wattenburg and Joanie Greggains, and meteorologist Lloyd Lindsay Young. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible
I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? Email . The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. Salvaging these dead big
its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988
Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. Phone . Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to
He also has three children from a previous marriage. equilibrium. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and
When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent
limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. today. But many self-proclaimed
Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill City web site tries to explain. I'm not standing on either side here. so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist
The let
from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer
There is a precedent to this official stupidity. While kind to children, Dr. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and
The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Letting forest fires
They were areas that are hard to access. Safe from what? to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). He consistently enforced the radical policies
consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often
that the Clinton White House would buckle. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill
Lame to who? The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. Terms of Use. small trees on the forest floors. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of
I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. In press reports,
their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak
However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications
Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually