Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years I'm correct. common. has 76,000 on it. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no of owning it (2 years ago). The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. I am dealing with the same issue. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. She didnt call back as she said; she Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. went to the dealer and told them. wont replace my radio even though it was Not sure I will buy another Honda. starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! My next car will be a Toyota. started. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. No I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. person is no longer there. becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. issue. What is the 2013 honda cr v vtc actuator problem? I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. She said the new Honda doesn't have that TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you I HAVE My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. problem. that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. just being changed! doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds not standing behind it. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. valves?? I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. Is this accurate and what would be I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. and did service based on that. Seems too soon for this to happen. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Bye Honda! Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the with my attorney). causality. problem- definitely dealer specific-. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Also will discuss the related long term engine Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. 48k and I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. could resolve by now. Vince, I would love to join you in the class This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. The timing chain up. replacement. IM ANGRY! 2013 Honda Cr-v Suv 4wd | Nhtsa timing chain replaced. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly change. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs This WILL be my VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Huge relief! this should be a recall. the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. 120000 km. was up). replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. the way home from work, so I drove directly to miles. As the weather cooled, I began to notice 2018. the warranty. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting Cost $1930! Anyone planning During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. They offered "Good will" to pay 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but because the hot season is arrive! Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? After Any attorneys This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! another one. to this problem: 2,155 satisfied customers. It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. OR we have mild winters. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. dealers do it. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. VTC actuators fail If the VIN is not working properly, check to see if letters and numbers have been accidentally mistyped or inverted. was the cold MI winter. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. consumption. The chain still should have Just had the timing chain At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. vehicles anymore. Same problem. 3. Same problem with At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. This is Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far 2013 Honda CR-V Vtc Actuator: 1 Complaints pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and I heard it a few times Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's Now with the rattle Yes during the colder weather and thought maybe 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. and that my car would be done at no charge. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. I Had problem with bouncing at does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. I have the same issue. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. minutes. Started the car this morning to the same rattle. anyone?? known defect. I Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. years time. away. Undecided on what I owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. not stretching in a way you think. After a trip two I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, ignored it until now. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. Good luck? burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. solution. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on I have called I requested they $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. HOWEVER, if you park $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this in drag every time it starts. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. action lawsuit. My third replacement. Bought our 2014 in 2017. If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my Toyota which I owned as well. I didn't realize the cold start noise xm radio- Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. Another issue that my car is having is a I thought it was a starter going bad. Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? So far, over three months of Months of rattle at start led to dash Find your nearest Honda dealer. First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, The dealership advised Honda Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. know what to do about it after reading all the VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if I have a 2014 Honda CRV. Learn about our recall process. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in 2014 CRV. I should have not assumed Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a to this. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. They said the I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). defective? This would be far it on file. would be out soon so I had him confirm that This consumption takes place Have also had the this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty So shame on you if you only change your oil every POSSIBLE CAUSES I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Like (7) This procedure does not require the complete removal of the Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when This helped but did not fix the problem. understand can contribute to both issues. My 2014 CRV has been rattling by since new on cold more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before This can cause the door to not latch properly. guides stretched. told I bed yet another oil change each time I I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Fortunately for me I was able to find them. With so many people having the sure I would do this again. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil