Strider joined Atlanta's rotation near the end of May and still ended up striking out 202 batters over 131 2/3 innings, becoming the only pitcher in MLB history to record at least 200 strikeouts with fewer than 135 innings. They have his first two free-agent years one locked in and the other as a club option. Rct and Cosmos2 are the two Met commenters on the site that most fit this description. establishing the players relationship through goodwill too for the future. To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. FF fired his agent. Outside revenue sources will be adjusted when available after the regular season. The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. The 2029 option comes with a $5MM buyout, which is factored into the guaranteed portion of the contract. Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: Lol at a Met fan claiming another teams farm system pitcher turns into.garbage. Say hello to the countless Met pitchers that have done exactly that. Sure, lofty but possible. Spencer Strider - Stats - Pitching | FanGraphs Baseball Strider was the NL Rookie of the Year runner-up to Braves teammate Michael Harris II. Swansons on the up. So the Braves just paid $35 mil for 1 free agent year of Strider, set* Im not getting an edit button for some reason. Sure there is a chance that the Braves might save $20 million plus if Strider becomes an ace, but they are far more likely to waste $20 million plus if he doesnt. It looks good for these first few years and probably bad for the last 2-3, but overall seems like a good value. Striders is fine assuming he doesnt turn into what every Atlanta farm system pitcher turns into, which is garbage in 3 years. But not to worry, I did that for you. Strider already had TJS while he was still at Clemson. That means he will have 2.003 so he will qualify for Super Two. Love to see it for the player, team and the fan base. $18M (2026) He also only had 10 starts. He wasnt going any where for at least five years. Thats fair. Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. I think they have the money. His salary will jump to $20 million in '26 and then rise to $22 million for both of the next two seasons. ATLANTA -- Within a matter of minutes, the Spencer Strider narrative changed from: How effective might he be in the National League Division Series to how effective might he be through at least the 2028 season? Be disappointed if you are going to be anything Braves fans because soon youll see when he falls short of expectations, which is anything short of him becoming Pedro Martinez and hes no Pedro! Spencer Strider - Clemson Tigers Official Athletics Site Looking more immediately down the line, the Braves already have $153MM on next years payroll and nearly $110MM on the 2024 payroll. Why? In your case, the look that you should recognize for all the times you see it with that kind of personality is disgust followed by derisive laughter. Have a better case that shows why you would gamble paying $53M for three arb years to save $8M in free agency? Click on the different category headings to find out more and change our default settings. If thats the key, then they failed, since theyre significantly overpaying for those arb years. Props to the AA coaching staff. older demographic) are even able to do that? That means his annual salary isnt even going to be justifiable when factoring in the cost of living! @RunDMC Bingo. Sorry for the confusion. The Super 2 status means more than 2 year and less than 3 years. Some recent examplesHarvey (lol), Matz, Gsellman, etc. Yeah Anthopoulos has spent right to the cap limit if he brings back Swanson! The Yankees seem to be possibly the least fan-friendly franchise in baseball. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. And him being top 2 in the ROY balloting has no bearing on his service time because the Braves never tried to manipulate it. It doesnt benefit both parties, Alex A. is a moron that has signed so many extensions that even with all the great deals he got done, the average $$$ is pushing $180M after only 15 of the contracts. They are off on a lot of things, feel free too look me up, the site owner hates me for calling him out. I absolutely love the Strider extension. Smith-Shawver, RHP 6. Strider has two pitches. He will finish next year with exactly TWO FULL YEARS OF SERVICE!! The idea that getting only modest performance for $20m in the last 3 years of the deal will hurt the Braves much at all, though, doesnt follow. So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. Strider took the mound to start . The move is retroactive to Sept. 21 and Strider has not pitched since last Sunday. He is doing well in his personal life as well. The Yankees have the fattest wallets, anywhere but NY wasnt really an option. These rookies contracts are just starting to be the front office getting over their skis and thinking they cant screw up. I know the first few years here are cheap, but still . I was down there for that last Mets series and all I heard was silence from the Mets fan base Sunday night. His arbitration would have been in line with the highest ever. Its amazing how many people are just totally willing to ignore the possibility of injury or decline in performance despite the dozens and dozens of examples weve seen. Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? I dont always disagree w/you. Obviously if it went that route the Braves win this by a bit, maybe $10 mil in their favor by the end of it roughly. Now lets say you call Ticketmaster and they tell you that you will get one of the four tickets, but you dont know which one until you get to the ball game. As a Mets fan, I hate what the Braves are doing. Five years from now, a 28-year-old top-of-the-rotation pitcher in free agency will probably be getting $40MM+ per year. It is purely a way to get extra money in the hands of 0-3 year service time players who are not arbitration eligible and subject to receiving the league minimum. To an SP, well, it seems awfully risky. the Braves just paid $35 mil for 1 free agent year of Strider We already know its you. But thanks to you I now have another person on my mute list. You think that contract for Strider isnt a slap in the face to guys in that clubhouse? Its a shame he doesnt pitch for the Mets. Are we going to have any money left for Dansby with all these signings? They potentially saved a lot of money. Getting to 94 is almost 7 mph slower than his typical top fastball. Deferred payments and incentive clauses are not included. Apple TV games are free this year. They lost in the playoffs, winning 101 games isnt a collapse. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. It was that year I knew hed be a douchebag for being a Yankee bandwagoner in SoCal. My bad for expecting anything you say to make sense. 2024: minimum Thats $57M add his one year of included free agency for $35M ($40M is bridge too far for me, sorry) and you have $92M roughly for 6 years. That will fall far short of the top 22 percent. Strider is represented by Frontline. Past that, I think all these extensions are based on the character of the player as much as talent. and injuries. And because they extended him it wont matter even if they DO send him down. The rotation is so strong that 39-year-old Morton, who re-signed for one year and $20 million, could possibly. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. He already missed a month due to injury. Thing is Baez/Story both have been more consistent with their bats (even Baez, lol), while providing defensive value. You can project him to approach or even set some combination of Arb1, Arb2 and Arb3 records, and Strider would still probably come in under $50MM and thats assuming health and sustained dominance. THIRD BASE Nolan Arenado, 3B, STL. Degrom was 29 in his first arbitration year coming off a season no where near as dominant as Strider. Scherzer isnt aging crap but it was one bad Wild Card game plus losing that pivotal start vs. ATL (he gave up 6 HR in his final 2 starts (inc. WC game) when he gave up only 13 HR all reg season). Atlanta has a chance to squeeze out of fistload of rings before the Nats come of age and steamroll the Senior Circuit. If you want to be a continuing part of this Braves dynasty, youll need to give us a discount. He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. Spencer Strider had 202 strikeouts last season and 202 strikeouts over his career. Max Fried, Spencer Strider make spring debuts Thank_ God: The correct sentence structure you should have put is.. Try used instead of put. Elude.? Braves will be WS contenders for the next 5 years at least with this core. "My goal is always to outperform any expectations," Strider said. Atlanta Braves Newsstand Transactions Spencer Strider, This makes 0 sense when the Braves controlled him for 5 years through arb anyway. I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. They may as well take it. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. Awkward, weak arm, slap happy hitter whose approach doesnt fit the Braves high exit velo crush the ball approach. J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. The inability to stream in market is a significant issue. Again, he IS a Super Two. Jealousys an ugly emotion. To see the rest of the Spencer Strider's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. For instance, John Blitzer tried saying Soto was worth almost $200M in excess value for 2.5 seasons, while still paying him $60M in salary. And as much as I like Acuna and Albies, the injuries have already taken a toll. I guess thats why you make comments without referencing who you are talking about or what makes you an expert. Then again, I also had concerns with Baez, who has a higher degree of volatility due to his approach. Manager Brian Snitker told reporters he doesn't expect Spencer Strider to need a stint on the injured list while dealing with left oblique soreness. PLAYER. This new contract not only finally topples that dated mark (in decisive fashion), it also surpasses the established extension records for pitchers with two to three years of service time (Blake Snells five-year, $50MM deal) and even with three to four years of service (Sandy Alcantaras five-year, $56MM deal). I sure would like to have more of a track record than a single season. @BaseballIsLife Thats not what the rule is. Especially not when youre right, lol. The lowest the cutoff has been since 2009 is 2.115. Fried wasnt this good out of the gate. Thats why you compare first full season and Harvey was a lot better. No, the alternative is to wait an extra year or two before extending him and then not overpaying for his arb years if/when you do still decide to extend him. They also have a lot of money coming off the books this yr and next with internal options available to replace these players. Let's check, How Rich is Duane, What is the Net Worth of Spencer Strider? He was surely damaged goods at that pointat least to some degree.. Baez is also known as a reflex player, as in his dropoff is likely to be catastrophic, costing you the entirety of the last years of his deal. Wouldnt be a bad time to offer him a 5-6 year deal at 100-120 mill. Playoff team extra year. Theres some degree of risk for the Braves in laying out such lengthy commitments, even if each looks quite team friendly in a vacuum. Max was gassed in the NLCS last year. If youre Swanson, coming off this type of 2021-22 performance, why would you sign for any less than Trevor Story and Javier Baez received last winter ($140MM over six years)? So he was arb eligible for the first time during the same offseason that he would have been eligible if the Cubs never manipulated his service time. Sure, its risky, but theyve gotten some historic numbers in a rookie season already from Strider. 37 Blake Snell, SP, SD. They are very pleased to pay him. I expect to see him elsewhere next year. Are you trying to evade someone or are you incapable of understanding the difference between elude and allude. us. Another pitiful troll comment from books. Hes been healthy for 3 straight years. Spencer Strider Contract Details, Salaries, & Earnings | Spotrac If thats the case, then the Braves just got Spencers first 5 seasons for, check this, 15 million. Yes, the name Braves Butt Head about sums it up correctly! I told them but they didnt listen to me. Even if you assume he will get less than Soto for whatever reason, then $7+mm, $14+mm, $22+mm, and $30+mm is extremely reasonable. The backend of this deal reminds me of Wil Myers, only in the sense that you have 3 years of $20M+ that start multiple years after the extension was reached. Not coincidentally, DET will be picking high in the Draft (again). And because he will likely finish top 2 in the ROY balloting, he would have been credited with a full year of service time in 2022 even if the Braves had tried to Kris Bryant him. I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M. Soto is going back to the Nats after 2024. Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. All of this doesnt even take into consideration if hes not an inner-circle HOF pitcher and has a fall off like Trevor Rogers. Doubtful, Strider was just crying and nobody in NY gives a fk what he says. somewhere in the 100-115 range over 6 years. Troll on books. Almost everyone gave up on the Braves when they were 10.5 games back in the NL East. Spencer Strider 6 hours ago Do they really think someone is going to go subscribe to Apple TV (one of The Worst of the streamers) just to watch? Now stand in the corner and think about what youve learned today. Yep. Im pretty sure these always lean more favorably to position players. What it means is you get credited with a full year regardless of the actual number of days you spent on the roster and are affirmatively NOT a Super Two because you were given a full year of service time. Strider will be top 2 in ROY voting. He was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 before joining MLB, but he missed the season in 2019 due to an injury. Strider is now under contract with the Braves [] The Braves do it again, getting 2 FA years of a superb pitcher (incl an option year, fcol), and they get those years very close to a SPs peak ages. Strider finished with a 11-5 record, 2.62 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP through 31 games. My response was, him being a star just makes it worth risking the $140M in assets! . I mean, kudos to the Braves for being aggressive and theyre certainly taking on risk of injury / under-performance, but seems some of the extensions the players have signed seem light. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. year in year out its the same and those dudes post and produce. That is why teams are willing to pay huge dollars for seasons they know will not offer the same performance as the earlier years. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. Judge is a high strikeout guy whose average is buoyed by his homerun total. And And. Spencer Strider Salary in 2022 After Signing 6 Year Contract With The dudes who write for this site were linking Cole to the Angels. Braves fans are setup extremely well. The greatest lineups ever? Swansons best year is his contract year, and even then its only a 115 OPS+ (when 100 is league average). 33. $140 per post at $7/CPM. He also became the first MLB pitcher to record 200 strikeouts and allow fewer than 100 hits. Its called creative license. Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN). I see it as a risk vs. He lost both. Thats stupid-economics! Strider just had one of the best seasons for a rookie starter in the arbitration era. Spencer Strider (left) and Michael Harris II are vying to give the Braves their seventh National League Rookie of the Year. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. They even got an opt out in the form of a cheap buyout if he crashes prior to his last year the Braves control. Spencer Strider and the Plant-Based Diet When Strider was 19, he was diagnosed with high blood pressure something rather uncommon for a young athlete. Fried is the one you need locked up. @bhambrave If you dont know what Super Two means dont try to talk about which players are or arent one. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. Just here for Mets fans comments. Jean Segura, MIA. His slap happy approach at the plate seems very much at odds w/the Braves patient, high exit velocity hitting philosophy. This line in the Braves press release is why you dont wait: Strider became the first player in major league history to strike out over 200 with fewer than 100 hits allowed.. If Free Agents make $40M in five years, if hes healthy, if he remains productive. Find out more. Explain to me the worth in that? If his performance stays this high he will make over $80 million in his pre-arb year and those 4 arb years. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Olson was FMV. Players dont sign team friendly controls anymore (Jose Ramirez says youre wrong). You make deals based on current results and future expectations. CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. You do need to add a year of FA to that because 6 years takes them through his first year of FA. These deals also help lower the luxury tax hit down the road. Harris hasnt played a season and Olson will be an albatross if a deal in 2 years. For everyone that doesnt get why this contract is bad. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising. Besides, theyre already overpaying him in this extension in the first place. @Pads Fans Interesting point. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. Click For Complete Top Prospect List for 2023 1. Most of the professional commentators (fwiw) picked the Braves on the basis that the Mets had yet to unthrone the kings. Thank god, the contract was signed today based on his performance this year. Did The Washington Commanders Release Carson Wentz? What Spencer Strider was born in Columbus, OH. You see the pieces that are already in place. The team has 15 players, none of which are Swanson, taking up $180M of their payroll in 2023. The Red Sox had the opportunity to do so with Betts, Bogaerts, and Devers a few years ago and blew the opportunity. Hell instead now carry a sizable $12.5MM luxury hit the average annual value of his new contract. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Right?? No the alternative is giving an extension that builds security for the player and allows them to gain price assurance. Sure lets look at a guy that posts a mid-.800 OPS and has a proven track record of premium pitching success and just assume thats where Strider would fall in five years?! Defending Champs and your slotted at Get Away games. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. How Much Does Spencer Strider Make? $35 million is reasonable figure for FA. Thats worth roughly $54m, if you can even buy a prime age #1 starter for 2 years. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Love the extension deal for a young guy. The extra year of service time for Top 2 in ROY voting means that combined with his full season on the Braves roster in 2022, Strider would be entering 2024 as Super Two eligible and the Braves would have a year less control. But this deal also looks ok for the Atlanta ball club even if you factor a 20 percent likelihood of a derailing injury midway through the deal. Some thoughtful Dodgers guys on here too. The mlbtr article mentioned that his agency is Frontline. Were talking about a position player who finished top 5 MVP both seasons leading into the arb years. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. Really only has 6 seasons in the ML. So $74.75 million for the pre-arb and 4 arb years + $72 million for the FA years = $146.75 million. Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. The only way he wouldnt is with a long demotion next year. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? He hasnt even extended Fried yet, and this reeks of him knee-jerking his reaction to Fried probably not wanting to talk about extensions and him wishing he wouldve done something a couple years ago. Back when Acuna signed his eight-year, $100MM extension, that was the largest deal ever for a position player with under a year of big league service. Peacock Sunday morning gamessome without announcers; Apple TV Fri night games). Now this young arm will feel a bit more comfortable coming out on short rest, out of the pen, whatever the case may be knowing he has some security next year and beyond. /s, Id use the Baez contract as a baseline 23AAV over 6. Spencer Strider - MLB News, Rumors, & Updates | FOX Sports Dansby is gone. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Then blew it against the Braves and then against the Pads. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. and, additionally, considering how poorly the Mets played the prior year, anyone predicting the Mets to win the division should get a gold star. All of these pitchers threw almost as hard if not equally as hard as Strider, all had varying degrees of success, and none of them even made $40M in arbitration. Its a league funded thing that every team will chip into $1.66 mil regardless. This seems like something the MLBPA would endorse. Strider broke the record for fastest to 200 strikeouts in a single season, doing so in 130 innings, two-thirds of an inning quicker than Hall of Famer Randy Johnson in 2001. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball The contention window is wide open for years now. "There's nobody that has higher aspirations or expectations for performance than myself. The sum he agreed to when being selected by MLB teams has not been made public. Spencer Strider gets Game 3 NLDS start for Atlanta Braves However, he already has slightly more than a full year of service time. The Silver Strider is a nickname for Spencer Strider. The average Plug and Play Tech Center hourly pay ranges from approximately $22 per hour for an Intern - Hourly to $69 per hour for a Partner Success Manager. We just cant afford to pay you market price. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. Hes allergic to walks. Strider retired all three batters he faced Wednesday while throwing his first simulated game of spring training, Justin Toscano of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. Strider and Braves teammate Michael Harris II are very likely to finish first and second in the NL Rookie of the Year voting in either. Spencer Strider baseball stats with batting stats, pitching stats and fielding stats, along with uniform numbers, salaries, quotes, career stats and biographical data presented by Baseball Almanac. Brilliant! Updated On January 29, 2023. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. Cant believe that AA lets him leave. Detroit couldnt trade him for an old jock now. Google elude. By RotoWire Staff. If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. No its not at all about that. Not me. There are way too many moving pieces to just guarantee blowing past the luxury tax. Hes top ten talent. Same is true for Strider, this deal doesnt include or exclude those pre-arb bonuses. Lets say he got 15% less than Soto, which if he continues to play like he did in 2022 is not likely, that would mean his one pre-arb year and his 4 arb years would look like this: The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. If we remove his first-full season clunker in 2017 and fold in 2022, hes still only at a league-average 100. But all of that is irrelevant, if he starts pitching like he did in Game 3 of the NLDS!! All rights reserved. Talks a lot about eating correctly, training well, and staying mentally fit. 2 things: More importantly, has anybody ever heard of Chris Davis? GM of the year imo. Atlanta Braves Give Rookie Pitcher Spencer Strider Record Extension How much do you think 2 seasons of an ace in his prime would cost, when you dont have to buy his decline years in order to get the heart of his career? If they would have waited to sign him for two years, it wouldve made less than a $10M difference in his contracts at most, but it would have given the team an extra $20M to spend before hitting the cap. He will receive an extra year of service time for that. Braves fans will be the first ones screaming when all these long term signing dont work out and the team starts getting hamstrung. They also made a couple great trades getting future star players that wear near MLB ready (Dansby/Fried). Cost of living adjustments are more for your average person. Theres a reason Cohen has the money he has, and it isnt by being a fool October? Strider opened the season as a reliever but then solidified Atlanta's rotation, helping the Braves win their fifth consecutive NL East title. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. Your proof of value starts with if. Pads Fan. Ride along with Braves pitcher Spencer Strider as he talks about what it's like playing at the big-league level, his favorite music to play on days he starts. Corbin Burnes is entering his 5th full season and 2nd pass through arbitration, which is only projected to pay him $11.3M. Doubt theres one single reason that either the Braves or Strider decided this was the best course of action other than it benefits both parties. Atlanta would have a franchise-record payroll in 2023 even if the only moves made by the front office were to simply tender arbitration contracts to their eligible players. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer.